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[et_pb_section admin_label=”section” global_module=”89″ fullwidth=”on” specialty=”off” transparent_background=”off” background_color=”#827b36″ allow_player_pause=”off” inner_shadow=”off” parallax=”off” parallax_method=”off” padding_mobile=”off” make_fullwidth=”off” use_custom_width=”off” width_unit=”on” make_equal=”off” use_custom_gutter=”off”][et_pb_fullwidth_menu global_parent=”89″ admin_label=”Fullwidth Menu” menu_id=”5″ background_color=”#827b36″ background_layout=”dark” text_orientation=”left” submenu_direction=”downwards”] [\/et_pb_fullwidth_menu][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section admin_label=”section” fullwidth=”on” specialty=”off” background_image=”http:\/\/thebrothersgrim.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/BrosGrim_Masthead.jpg” transparent_background=”off” allow_player_pause=”off” inner_shadow=”off” parallax=”on” parallax_method=”off” padding_mobile=”off” make_fullwidth=”off” use_custom_width=”off” width_unit=”on” make_equal=”off” use_custom_gutter=”off”][et_pb_fullwidth_image admin_label=”Fullwidth Image” src=”http:\/\/thebrothersgrim.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/BrosGrim_Masthead.jpg” show_in_lightbox=”off” url=”thebrothersgrim.info” url_new_window=”off” animation=”left” use_border_color=”off” border_color=”#ffffff” border_style=”solid”] [\/et_pb_fullwidth_image][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section admin_label=”section” transparent_background=”off” background_color=”#ddd3ba” allow_player_pause=”off” inner_shadow=”off” parallax=”off” parallax_method=”off” padding_mobile=”off” make_fullwidth=”off” use_custom_width=”off” width_unit=”on” make_equal=”off” use_custom_gutter=”off”][et_pb_row admin_label=”row”][et_pb_column type=”2_3″][et_pb_text admin_label=”Text” background_layout=”light” text_orientation=”left” use_border_color=”off” border_color=”#ffffff” border_style=”solid”] The Brothers Grim<\/strong>\u00a0was a contemporary pop-rock recording group of the early to mid-nineteen-sixties. The Group was managed by Wally Peters who was also the manager of the record department at The House of Sight and Sound, one of Los Angeles’ largest full service music stores. The group’s first record, YOU’LL NEVER BE MINE (a “Pick Hit of the Week” on one of the greater Los Angeles’ areas radio stations), was recorded with hundreds of screaming fans in the background. The record’s flip side was an instrumental featuring the group’s VOX Continental organ player, Chuck S. McClean, entitled SCUZY, which coincided with the release of the\u00a0Baskin Robbins<\/em>\u00a0TM<\/em>\u00a0flavor of the month by the same name. One of\u00a0The Brothers Grim<\/em>\u00a0fans heard Wink Martindale mention on his radio show that he saw a marquee for the\u00a0The Brothers Grim<\/em>\u00a0in North Hollywood and remarked that it was a great name for a group. The lead singer and guitarist for the group was J.P. Sloane. The bass player was Ron Coleman who also sang lead and backup. Jeff Allen, the group’s drummer, was a very talented young studio musician. Jeff played the drums on Maurice Williams’ number one hit record, STAY, which also was the cornerstone recording for the all time top selling soundtrack hit movie\u00a0Dirty Dancing<\/em>. In the early 1960’s,\u00a0The Brothers Grim<\/em>\u00a0became the first American group to be featured with Vox Amplifiers and guitars which were made famous by the contemporary British group,\u00a0The Beatles<\/em>. Joe Banaron, CEO of Warwick Electronics Inc. and President of Thomas Organ, the United States distributor of Vox, along with Bernard Stockly (of London), importer to the United States of the Royal Warranted, Challenge \/ Eavestaff pianos, arranged for the boys to have full use of the five foot tall AC 100, which later became known as the “Super Beatle,” along with other Vox amplifiers. In one of the company’s in-house publications, Ron Coleman and J.P. Sloane were featured standing back to back against the big Vox AC 100 Amplifier. When the group recorded their second record, a cover of Del Shannon’s RUNAWAY, they utilized an actual flute instead of using an organ with a flute setting as was done in the original Shannon version. However, before the release of this record, it was time to renegotiate their contract. It was also at this time\u00a0The Brothers Grim<\/em>\u00a0were under consideration for an appearance on the hit TV show,\u00a0Shindig<\/em>, along with an appearance scheduled for the Los Angeles areas popular TV dance show,9th Street West<\/em>, a program hosted by Sam Riddle (KHJ-TV Channel 9) who went on to produce\u00a0Star Search<\/em>. Unfortunately during the renegotiations of their contract, bass player Ron Coleman backed out of the contract and decided to leave the group. Ron later went on to become the bass player for another “brothers” group…\u00a0 The Everly Brothers.<\/em> With the exit of Ron Coleman,\u00a0The Brothers Grim<\/em>\u00a0hired a new bass player to finish the group’s commitments and television appearances. The second record was never released and\u00a0The Brothers Grim<\/em>\u00a0broke up after their commitments were completed. J.P. Sloane formed and toured the U.S. with a new group called\u00a0J.P. Sloane and Co.<\/em>\u00a0He also did feature appearances throughout the Mid-South with rock and country music legend, Charlie Rich. If you have any more information on this group, have a copy of their record you could share or know anything about what the other members went on to do, please contact:\u00a0update@thebrothersgrim.info<\/a> [\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=”1_3″][et_pb_image admin_label=”Image” src=”http:\/\/thebrothersgrim.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/pic.jpg” show_in_lightbox=”on” url_new_window=”off” animation=”left” sticky=”off” align=”left” force_fullwidth=”off” always_center_on_mobile=”on” use_border_color=”off” border_color=”#ffffff” border_style=”solid” title_text=”The Brothers Grim Ad” alt=”The Brothers Grim Ad”] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_video admin_label=”Video” src=”http:\/\/thebrothersgrim.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/The-Brothers-Grimm-Youll-Never-Be-Mine.mp4″ image_src=”http:\/\/thebrothersgrim.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/GrimRow1.jpg” play_icon_color=”#20ccc0″] [\/et_pb_video][et_pb_text admin_label=”Text” background_layout=”light” text_orientation=”left” use_border_color=”off” border_color=”#ffffff” border_style=”solid”] While this fun video using the Brothers Grim audio is taken from YouTube, it was not authorized or produced by the Brothers Grim.\u00a0<\/strong><\/em> [\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row admin_label=”row”][et_pb_column type=”1_3″][et_pb_image admin_label=”Image” src=”http:\/\/thebrothersgrim.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/GrimRow3.jpg” show_in_lightbox=”on” url_new_window=”off” animation=”left” sticky=”off” align=”left” force_fullwidth=”off” always_center_on_mobile=”on” use_border_color=”off” border_color=”#ffffff” border_style=”solid” title_text=”Ron Coleman” alt=”Ron Coleman: Guitarist\/Bassist\/ Lead Singer\/ Backup Singer”] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_image admin_label=”Image” src=”http:\/\/thebrothersgrim.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/unnamed.jpg” alt=” The Brothers Grim have been honored by having a %22cover%22 of their song, %22You’ll Never Be Mine,%22 recorded by a Cape Town, South Africa band known as The Lost Souls.%22 Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! ” show_in_lightbox=”off” url_new_window=”on” use_overlay=”off” animation=”off” sticky=”off” align=”center” force_fullwidth=”off” always_center_on_mobile=”on” use_border_color=”off” border_color=”#ffffff” border_style=”solid” url=”https:\/\/the-lost-souls.bandcamp.com\/track\/youll-never-be-mine-the-brothers-grim”] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=”Text” background_layout=”light” text_orientation=”center” use_border_color=”off” border_color=”#ffffff” border_style=”solid”]<\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0The Brothers Grim<\/i> have been honored by having a \u00a0“cover” of their song,\u00a0“You’ll Never Be Mine,” recorded\u00a0by a\u00a0Cape Town, South Africa\u00a0band known as The Lost Souls.<\/i>”\u00a0Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!<\/p>\n

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J.P. Sloane and Wink Martindale<\/p>\n

[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=”1_3″][et_pb_image admin_label=”Image” src=”http:\/\/thebrothersgrim.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/GrimRow4.jpg” alt=”From left to right Ron Coleman, Paul Jackson Jr., and J.P. Sloane” title_text=”From left to right Ron Coleman, Paul Jackson Jr., and J.P. Sloane” show_in_lightbox=”on” url_new_window=”off” animation=”left” sticky=”off” align=”left” force_fullwidth=”off” always_center_on_mobile=”on” use_border_color=”off” border_color=”#ffffff” border_style=”solid”] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=”Text” background_layout=”light” text_orientation=”left” use_border_color=”off” border_color=”#ffffff” border_style=”solid”] Exciting news! Ron Coleman and J.P. Sloane were recently seen back stage at The Tonight Show with the shows lead guitarist, recording star Paul Jackson Jr<\/strong> [\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row admin_label=”row”][et_pb_column type=”4_4″][et_pb_text admin_label=”Text” background_layout=”light” text_orientation=”left” use_border_color=”off” border_color=”#ffffff” border_style=”solid”]<\/p>\n

SOME OF THE MORE INTERESTING MAIL WE HAVE RECEIVED:<\/b> ______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n

Tammy writes:<\/span><\/i>Did you know the Brothers Grim are mentioned in a book entitled:\u00a0<\/span>\u201cSixties Rock: Garage, Psychedelic, and Other Satisfactions\u201d<\/b>\u00a0\u2013 Page 34 Thought you\u2019d like to know. A BIG FAN! Tammy S., Chicago, IL ______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n

Jeannie writes:<\/span><\/i> You asked for a copy of their record so I started looking on eBay and Amazon to see if I could find one. I just LOVED The Brothers Grim and thought I could make a copy of it to send to you if I found one\u2026well I found one on eBay but I can\u2019t afford it they want $125.00!!! Sorry I really was hoping to get it Jenny L., Jackson MS Thank you Jenny, we checked it out (http:\/\/music.shop.ebay.com\/Music-\/11233\/i.html?_kw=brothers&_kw=grim&_kw=%22you%27ll+never+be+mine%22) I knew they were good but THAT\u2019S REAL GOOD! ______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n

Betty writes:<\/span><\/i> While looking for the Brothers Grim I found it on \u201cSports Link-up and they\u2019re selling \u201cYou\u2019ll Never Be Mine\u201d but it\u2019s a little high, $125.00: <\/span>BROTHERS GRIM<\/b>: Scuzzy \/\u00a0<\/span>You\u2019ll Never Be Mine<\/i><\/b>. Ref:\u00a0<\/span>BROTHERS GRIM<\/b>: Scuzzy \/\u00a0<\/span>You\u2019ll Never Be Mine<\/i><\/b>. $125.00. The Senders Kent 320 I Dream Of You Rare Group R&B \u2026\u00a0<\/span>www.sportslinkup.com\/shop\/0-45-rpm-105-HIGHEST.html<\/span> Hope you find one. I really loved the group. Betty F., Boston MA. ______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n

Sean writes:<\/span><\/i> I live in Kent where VOX, the equipment that the Brothers Grim used, originated. I found your site and thought I might help acquire a copy of their record for you. We really enjoyed The Brothers Grim even though they weren\u2019t around very long over here. What I did find was that their record is available here for \u00a381.33 a bit much for blokes like me to afford but I am sending along a link in case you may wish to invest in it for yourself. <\/span>http:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/brothers-grim-Music\/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=brothers-grim&rh=n%3A229816%2Ck%3Abrothers-grim&page=1<\/span> 1 used<\/b>\u00a0from \u00a381.33 Sean P. Dartford, Kent UK <\/span>Thanks for contacting us Sean<\/b>. It seems like their records are even more popular worldwide than when they first released them back in the 1960s! Let everyone in Kent know they can be proud of that great Kent-VOX- sound that\u00a0<\/span>The Brothers Grim<\/i><\/b>\u00a0and all of us loved so much! ______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n

Judy from Ohio writes:<\/span><\/i> I was looking for one of my favorite all time groups from the sixties,\u00a0<\/span>The Brothers Grim<\/i><\/b>, and found several web pages that have their recording\u00a0<\/span>\u201cYou\u2019ll Never be Mine\u201d<\/span><\/i>\u00a0on them. I made a copy of\u00a0<\/span>\u201cYou\u2019ll Never be Mine\u201d<\/span><\/i>\u00a0which I have sent to you. One of the things I really loved about the sixties was the neat VOX sound many of the groups had and on the Brothers Grim record you can really hear it coming through with the organ and amps! Unfortunately they didn\u2019t have any recordings of \u201cScuzzy\u201d although one did list it on their site. When I found your site on the Internet I was thrilled because you have the most information on them!!! Thanks for remembering them. Judy M. Ohio <\/span>Thanks Judy<\/b>\u2013 As you can see the boy\u2019s records are selling again all over the world for quite a bit of money these days! I know all their fans will appreciate your wonderful musical gift. They can access it by clicking on just below the photo of their record above. Hopefully someone else will come up with their instrumental recording of \u201cScuzzy.\u201d (When I said all over the world I wasn\u2019t kidding check out this Internet site from Russia.) Go about a quarter of the way down their offering \u201c<\/span>You\u2019ll Never Be Mine<\/i><\/b>\u201d by\u00a0<\/span>The Brothers Grim<\/b>\u00a0today-IN RUSSIA!! \u00d0\u00b0\u00d1\u00c2\u20ac\u00d0\u00b0\u00d0\u00b6\u00d0\u00bd\u00d1\u00c2\u2039\u00d0\u00b9 \u00d0 \u00d0\u00be\u00d0\u00ba\u00a0<\/span>http:\/\/rock.ru\/forum\/index.php?topic=7478.0;all<\/span> ______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n

WEBMASTER-<\/b>\u00a0We finally did find The Brothers Grim\u2019s recording of \u201cScuzzy\u201d offered for sale in Spain for 192,90 \u20ac (Euros) Scuzzy \/ You\u2019ll Never Be Mine de brothers grim en Vinilo: compra y \u2026 \u2013 Compra y Vende con toda seguridad : Scuzzy \/ You\u2019ll Never Be Mine de brothers grim en Vinilo \u2013 Vinilo 7\u2033 \u2013 45 R.P.M. nuevo y de segunda mano al mejor precio \u2026 www.priceminister.es \u203a \u2026 \u203a\u00a0<\/span>M\u00fasica<\/span>\u00a0\u203a\u00a0<\/span>Vinilos<\/span>\u00a0\u203a\u00a0<\/span>Vinilos de Rock<\/span> ______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n

Tom Writes:<\/span><\/i> You\u2019re not the only ones wanting a copy of The Brothers Grim records, look what I found on the Internet! I Buy: I buy Phonograph Records, concert posters, 1960\u2019s psychedelic \u2026 May 11, 2009\u2026 CONGREGATION \u201cBringing Me Down\u201d (Kumquat No.1) 996 BROTHERS AND SISTERS \u201cAnd I Know\u201d (Soft 979) 739 BROTHERS GRIM \u201cYou\u2019ll never be mine\u201d \u2026 www.requests.pikaba.com\/14040.aspx \u2013 Cached \u2013 Tom W. Little Rock <\/span>Nice find Tom, maybe the boys should go back into the studio if we could ever find the old band again!<\/b> ______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n

Brenda writes:<\/span><\/i> Guess what? I found an old link to The Brothers Grim and \u201cYou\u2019ll Never Be Mine. It was the Pick of the Week the week of August 31, 2003 at Garage Rock Radio (www.garagerockradio.com\/News0803.htm) I was so excited I wanted to share this with you. Brenda K, Washington, D.C. <\/span>Thanks for writing Brenda WOW Pick of the Week after 39 years I guess they still got it in \u2019em!<\/b> ______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n

Ashley writes:<\/span><\/i> My moms favorite group of the 60\u2019s was The Brothers Grim and we were reading your site and noticed you didn\u2019t have a copy of their records so we looked on eBay to see if they had any copies and they did but it\u2019s out of our price range, they wanted $125.00! BROTHERS GRIM: Scuzzy \/ You\u2019ll Never Be Mine | eBay- Mar 15 eBay: Find BROTHERS GRIM: Scuzzy \/ You\u2019ll Never Be Mine in the Music , Records category on eBay. cgi.ebay.com \u203a Music \u203a Records Ashley B., Phoenix, AZ <\/span>Dear Ashley-<\/b>\u00a0Thanks to you and your mom for trying to help, however, as you have probably noticed, we now have \u201cYou\u2019ll Never Be Mine\u201d available for you to listen to free of charge. Just click it on at the bottom of their record at the top of the page. ______________________________________________________________________________<\/span><\/p>\n

Erin writes:<\/span><\/i> I loved the Brothers Grim and went to see them perform many times so why are they listed on the Internet mostly as a garage\/punk band? Every time we saw them they acted and dressed really cool and played all our favorite songs of the sixties. I\u2019m so confused!!! Erin R. Hollywood, CA <\/span>Dear Erin-<\/b>\u00a0Perhaps its a few reasons. First of all \u201cgarage band\u201d is a term used for unknown amateurs that presumably got together and practiced in their garages until they become known by playing local gigs or teen parties and the local high school sock hops, etc. However, The Brothers Grim consisted of Hollywood studio musicians as the above page testifies too. Another reason could be the name of their record label which originally was titled \u201cTriple Tigrrr.\u201d The reason for this name was due to the great demand by their fans for a record and their manager created his own label for them to record on and when doing so, because of the rush to press, was advised by the record manufacturer to use a name that nobody else would possibly have until copyright clearance could be established for \u201cTiger\u201d records and that\u2019s how the label came about. Lastly one of the recordings the boys made was called \u201cScuzzy\u201d and in the Punk genre that seemingly cruddy sounding name may have been the motivation for those who classify to place The Brothers Grim as \u201cpunk.\u201d Many of the websites are run by music lovers who were not born or very young in the sixties and that too may be part of the reason. Another possibility is that in recent years several hard rock groups have copied the name and \u201cguilt\u201d by association may have come into play. Of course the title \u201cScuzzy\u201d as stated above was not as nefarious as it may sound today but was simply the boys playing off of \u201cBaskin Robbins\u201d flavor of the month which was named \u201cScuzzy.\u201d Whatever the reason they call The Brothers Grim a \u201cgarage group\u201d a \u201cpunk band\u201d or a \u201cTop 40 rock band of the sixties\u201d we appreciate the thoughtfulness of including them in all of the various websites around the world. Thanks for writing Erin; We hope we\u2019ve been able to clear that up for you. ********************************************************************* <\/span><\/p>\n

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